Friar Laurence gives advice to Romeo and Juliet. He first says "Wisely and slowly: they stumble that run fast" (2.3.90) and later, when he's marrying the two, he states "These violent delights have violent ends...Therefore love moderately - long love doth so:/Too swift arrives as tardy as too slow" (2.6.9,14-15).
What do you think of his advice? Is it truly wise? Or, are there times when it wouldn't apply?
Also, what do you make of his advice and then his decision to still marry the two? Was he wise? Is he all talk?
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I believe that Friar Laurence's advice was sincere and filled with experience. He would have married plenty of people in the community and been able to see the progress and success (or failure) of various relationships.
ReplyDeleteFriar Laurence went with what he felt was right, He was simply aiming to please Romeo and Juliet. He could have never anticipated the problems to come or else I velieve he never would have done it.
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DeleteFriar Laurence is crazy. He contradicts himself by giving advice about how he thinks their relationship will be too much work to keep it going and keep their love strong, and then marries them anyways. He didn't do the right thing by marrying them when he was thinking that they shouldn't have been married.
ReplyDeleteUmmmmm your wrong. That doesn't even make any sense. ROFL LMAO LOL SMH
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DeleteJon, maybe you should write your own opinion before bashing others'? ;)
Um maybe you shouldn't be so sassay?
DeleteI think that Friar Lawrence's advice is truly wise. I think this because he is pretty much telling them that they went into things too quickly, and technically, they did see eachother and then instantly "fell in love" and now they are getting married. They barely know anything about eachother. Friar Lawrence is warning them telling them that it could be dangerous because they barely do know eachother which could cause problems.
ReplyDeleteI think that Friar Lawrence is all talk in a way. I think this because he was telling them all this about how they need to be careful and that they rushed into things and then he ended up marrying them. In a way, I feel like this is kind of two faced because if he really did care about their relationship, he wouldn't marry them until they waited awhile. At the same time, I can see that he understood that Juliet didn't want to marry Paris, and if they waited, she would be married to Paris.
I thought this was very wise advice because in life you don't want to rush things because it will only make things more complicated and and frustrating. Also if you love someone to much you can get tired of being in love with them and you may wan't to be with someone else instead of the current person you are with.
ReplyDeleteGood times where this would apply is kids being in love in high school or even public school. If they waste all their love in one go they will get tired of each other. If you drag out the love, it can lead to the relation lasting much longer and possibly giving you the chance to get to know the person better. This can solidify a relation instead of just wasting it in one go.
I don't think he is all talk because finding love later in life is and can be better both financially and mentally. In your later years, you may have a job and a house to live in. This means that you can support the person that you love and keep them safe.
I think Friar Laurence's advice is wise for Romeo and Juliet and it applys at all times not just now. They barely know eachother as they only met a couple days ago. However, they are already rushing into a marriage not thinking about the consequences for themselves, and their families. I think Frair Laurence's advice is simply to try to make Romeo and Juliet think twice about their decision and make sure their ready to be married. I think his decision to marry them soon afterwards shows he won't stop their wedding if they believe they are ready to get married. I don't think Friar Laurence feels it is in his place to stop the wedding. The most he can do is warn them and give them advice. I think this is wise of Friar Laurence because he has made them rethink their decision, and also steered clear of upsetting their feelings. It is also wise because he isn't getting involved in their decision and allowing them to make their own choices.
ReplyDeleteI think that Friar Laurence's advice was right and that Romeo and Juliet should stop to think about what they're doing before they get married. They both are caught up in the moment and could find out later that getting married was a big mistake. Friar Laurence was completely right about his advice but what he gave was just advice. He gave the advice to show his opinion on the issue and whether Romeo and Juliet listened to it was beside the point. I don't think that Friar Laurence had the right to deny their marriage. Friar saw that Juliet would be happier with Romeo than she would be with Paris. He was in a hard situation and he did what was asked of him. Friar Laurence doesn't want to get in the way of two people's decision to get married so instead offers them his advice and warnings.
ReplyDeleteI think that Friar Laurence's advice was very wise, true and correct advice. If Romeo and Juliet didn't rush into marrying each other than I believe that they would have had a much more stable relationship and it wouldn't have ended in a tragedy.
ReplyDeleteI think that Friar Laurence did the wrong think by marrying Romeo and Juliet. It is one thing to say what too do but if you do not do what you say then there is no point in saying it at all. The problem that Friar Laurence faced was that he did not want to get in to drama and prevent Romeo and Juliet from getting married so he was kind of in a rut.
I think that Friar Laurence's advice wasn't so much wise as much as it was common sense. Romeo and Juliet both would have some time of idea about what the repercussions of them getting married could be, and with understanding what they are doing would cause controversy in its self may be part of why there are such strong feelings so early on.
ReplyDeleteAs far as the decision for Friar Laurence to marry them, I think he made the right choice because whether how he felt about the relationship there were still two people in front of him who loved each other, and wanted to get married.
I think that Friar Laurence's advice is actually some good advice to listen to. He does happen to have lived longer then either Romeo or Juliet. I believe that it would be a wise choice to listen to him. Though, I think that in some situations it would make some want to do the opposite of what he said to do.
ReplyDeleteThe fact that he still married them gives me the impression that he is a bit of a hypocrite. I don't really understand why he did it. Was it just to be nice?Or maybe he was good friends with them and just wanted them to be happy? I don't think that personally it was the best thing to do but he made his choice to marry them and stuck to it.
He married them because he thought it might make peace between the two families: 'turn your households' rancour to pure love'.
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ReplyDeleteOkay so this old chap has good advice, but what is wrong with him? It is true that you should not just rush into love because well, things could happen or who knows you might just be making it worse in the end. We saw this in Romeo and Juliet and it only got worse because of the friar. I think that the friar should have made the decision not to marry them because he should have done the adult thing by telling them to wait and sticking with it!. I understand the situation about how the two wanted to get married but I believe that certain aspects of it were based upon fear. I've been thinking about it and if Romeo might not have married Juliet then eventually she would have married Paris, but there it is again. She could have waited and the two(Romeo and Juliet) could have found some way to bring their families closer together and then told them.
ReplyDeleteNow back to the friar. Of course it is part talk because he does not make any sense. He just went against everything he said before and thus in my opinion contributes to the end/death of Romeo and Juliet. The friar must likely was under a lot of pressure to make the right decision but common, is marrying them really the way to go? He should have done something because it was like he was oblivious to their obsession with each other. I just found it so interesting that the friar knew they were young, immature and not fully developed yet he still made his decision based on their apparent love. The friar's advice would(in most cases) relate to humans in their teens and younger years because I have to admit don't always think and make the right decisions.
This then made think, could Romeo and Juliet have had lasting relationship if they would have survived? Now this is tricky because no one knows. No one knows if their love would have lasted or have been burnt out a few years later. I personally think that a person should not get married until they are at the point when fully understand what it is that they are doing. Certainly most teens do not know this yet even though they may think they do.
Should the friar not have married them? Yes. Would it have hurt their feelings? Yes. Would it have had a better outcome? Most likely (in terms of survival). In my opinion they should have waited and thought all of this over before they rushed to get married because they only knew each other for a matter of days. If they would have waited I am sure their choices would eventually be accepted by their families whom are even starting to realize that it is not worth it to be enemies anymore.
I believe that Friar Laurence knows what he's talking about. He is older; and therefore wiser. Romeo has vented to the Friar several times before, and has always received good judgement and advice (which Romeo has ignored), so there's no reason the Friar wouldn't give good advice this time.
ReplyDeleteBy the quotes you (Ms. Sloane) have chosen, it appears that Friar Laurence doesn't think these kids are ready to get married. He has clearly married others before these two came along, and would be aware of what it takes for a relationship to succeed. It would have been different if the parents agreed, but in this case, the parents aren't even aware.
I think that Friar Laurence is wise, but is acting on a gut-instinct on this one, because I don't think it would ever make sense to marry two teenagers a couple days after they meet. Friar Laurence's wisdom comes into play here because he is marrying them in hopes that the family fued is settled.
I believe some of what Friar Lawerence is saying is wise, but some information could not be related to every relationship."wisely and and slowly: they stumble then run fast." I think this means that he is saying a relationship should be thought out of wisdom and taken slow and he is pointing out that they're going way too fast. I think that he is acting like a child marrying two people that have only known each other for only a short time. I also believe he doesn't quite know how it feels to be in love, so most of whathe is saying is kind of b.s. :)
DeleteI agree with friar laurences advise and I think that it is wise what he said from personal experience with friends I personally know that it is true that two people that love to crazy at first. will end very rough and fast because the love will eventually run out an crash.
ReplyDeletewith friar laurence saying this I believe that he is going against his own words in marrying them. that I consider being foolish
Friar laurence is a boss. He seems like the kinda guy you can toss a beer and just talk ya know?
ReplyDeleteStating that love is a little crazy at first is a very true thing. Filled with mystery and passion, many people are blinded by this and him at least trying to get those two tools to understand was the justly thing to do. But i think it was right for him to marry them if that was they're wishes. This enforces how good of a guy he was and this shows that he is a composed man and puts deep confidance in Romeo and Juliet to make the right descions even though they suck and do the exact opposite of what a normal person would do.